diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index 5fee5228bed..8cb026400c4 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -76,6 +76,7 @@ Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai
 - Discord: add configurable gateway READY timeouts for startup and runtime reconnects, so staggered multi-account setups can avoid false restart loops. Fixes #72273. Thanks @sergionsantos.
 - Discord: preserve native slash-command description localizations through command reconcile, so localized Discord descriptions no longer get overwritten by English defaults. Fixes #56580. Thanks @mhseo93.
 - Discord: add configured outbound mention aliases so known `@Name` references can be rewritten to real Discord user mentions instead of relying only on the transient directory cache. Fixes #67587. Thanks @McoreD.
+- Discord: avoid startup REST amplification by skipping native command deploy retries after Discord rate limits and deriving the bot id from parseable bot tokens instead of requiring a `/users/@me` lookup. Fixes #75341. Thanks @PrinceOfEgypt.
 - Plugins/hooks: derive hook `ctx.channelId` from the conversation target instead of the provider name, so Discord and other channel plugins can keep per-channel state isolated. Fixes #59881. Thanks @bradfreels.
 - Gateway/config: log config health-state write failures instead of silently hiding config observe-recovery write errors. Thanks @sallyom.
 - Diagnostics: reset stuck-session timers on reply, tool, status, block, and ACP progress events, and back off repeated `session.stuck` diagnostics while a session remains unchanged. Supersedes #72010. Thanks @rubencu.
diff --git a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.deploy.ts b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.deploy.ts
index 3eff0914015..e738b956a4d 100644
--- a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.deploy.ts
+++ b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.deploy.ts
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-import { formatDurationSeconds, warn, type RuntimeEnv } from "openclaw/plugin-sdk/runtime-env";
+import { warn, type RuntimeEnv } from "openclaw/plugin-sdk/runtime-env";
 import { formatErrorMessage } from "openclaw/plugin-sdk/ssrf-runtime";
 import { Client, overwriteApplicationCommands, type RequestClient } from "../internal/discord.js";
 import {
@@ -9,7 +9,6 @@ import {
   formatDiscordDeployRateLimitDetails,
   formatDiscordDeployRateLimitWarning,
   isDiscordDeployDailyCreateLimit,
-  resolveDiscordDeployRateLimitDetails,
 } from "./provider.deploy-errors.js";
 import { logDiscordStartupPhase } from "./provider.startup-log.js";
 
@@ -130,9 +129,6 @@ async function deployDiscordCommands(params: {
   }
   const startupStartedAt = params.startupStartedAt ?? Date.now();
   const accountId = params.accountId ?? "default";
-  const maxAttempts = 3;
-  const maxRetryDelayMs = 15_000;
-  const sleep = (ms: number) => new Promise((resolve) => setTimeout(resolve, Math.max(0, ms)));
   const restoreDeployRestLogging = installDeployRestLogging({
     rest: params.client.rest,
     runtime: params.runtime,
@@ -141,46 +137,29 @@ async function deployDiscordCommands(params: {
     shouldLogVerbose: params.shouldLogVerbose,
   });
   try {
-    for (let attempt = 1; attempt <= maxAttempts; attempt += 1) {
-      try {
-        await params.client.deployCommands({ mode: "reconcile" });
+    try {
+      await params.client.deployCommands({ mode: "reconcile" });
+      return;
+    } catch (err) {
+      if (isDiscordDeployDailyCreateLimit(err)) {
+        params.runtime.log?.(
+          warn(
+            `discord: native slash command deploy skipped for ${accountId}; daily application command create limit reached. Existing slash commands stay active until Discord resets the quota. Message send/receive is unaffected.`,
+          ),
+        );
         return;
-      } catch (err) {
-        if (isDiscordDeployDailyCreateLimit(err)) {
-          params.runtime.log?.(
-            warn(
-              `discord: native slash command deploy skipped for ${accountId}; daily application command create limit reached. Existing slash commands stay active until Discord resets the quota. Message send/receive is unaffected.`,
-            ),
-          );
-          return;
-        }
-        const rateLimitDetails = resolveDiscordDeployRateLimitDetails(err);
-        if (!rateLimitDetails || attempt >= maxAttempts) {
-          throw err;
-        }
-        const retryAfterMs = Math.max(0, Math.ceil(rateLimitDetails.retryAfterMs ?? 0));
-        if (retryAfterMs > maxRetryDelayMs) {
-          params.runtime.log?.(
-            warn(
-              `discord: native slash command deploy skipped for ${accountId}; retry after ${formatDurationSeconds(retryAfterMs, { decimals: 1 })} exceeds startup budget. Existing slash commands stay active. Message send/receive is unaffected.`,
-            ),
-          );
-          return;
-        }
-        if (params.shouldLogVerbose()) {
-          params.runtime.log?.(
-            `discord startup [${accountId}] deploy-retry ${Math.max(0, Date.now() - startupStartedAt)}ms attempt=${attempt}/${maxAttempts - 1} retryAfterMs=${retryAfterMs} scope=${rateLimitDetails.scope ?? "unknown"} code=${rateLimitDetails.discordCode ?? "unknown"}`,
-          );
-        }
-        await sleep(retryAfterMs);
       }
+      const rateLimitWarning = formatDiscordDeployRateLimitWarning(err, accountId);
+      if (rateLimitWarning) {
+        params.runtime.log?.(warn(rateLimitWarning));
+        return;
+      }
+      throw err;
     }
   } catch (err) {
-    const rateLimitWarning = formatDiscordDeployRateLimitWarning(err, accountId);
     params.runtime.log?.(
       warn(
-        rateLimitWarning ??
-          `discord: native slash command deploy warning (not message send): ${formatDiscordDeployErrorMessage(err)}${formatDiscordDeployErrorDetails(err)}`,
+        `discord: native slash command deploy warning (not message send): ${formatDiscordDeployErrorMessage(err)}${formatDiscordDeployErrorDetails(err)}`,
       ),
     );
   } finally {
diff --git a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.test.ts b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.test.ts
index c9b5f23d44e..e557196a0e4 100644
--- a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.test.ts
+++ b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.test.ts
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ vi.mock("./presence.js", () => ({
 }));
 
 import { createDiscordRequestClient, DISCORD_REST_TIMEOUT_MS } from "../proxy-request-client.js";
-import { createDiscordMonitorClient } from "./provider.startup.js";
+import { createDiscordMonitorClient, fetchDiscordBotIdentity } from "./provider.startup.js";
 
 describe("createDiscordMonitorClient", () => {
   beforeEach(() => {
@@ -295,3 +295,28 @@ describe("createDiscordMonitorClient", () => {
     expect(createAutoPresenceControllerForTest).not.toHaveBeenCalled();
   });
 });
+
+describe("fetchDiscordBotIdentity", () => {
+  it("derives the bot id from a Discord bot token without calling /users/@me", async () => {
+    const fetchUser = vi.fn(async () => {
+      throw new Error("network should not be used");
+    });
+    const logStartupPhase = vi.fn();
+    const botId = "1477179610322964541";
+
+    await expect(
+      fetchDiscordBotIdentity({
+        client: { fetchUser } as never,
+        token: `${Buffer.from(botId).toString("base64")}.GhIiP9.vU1xEpJ6NjFm`,
+        runtime: { log: vi.fn(), error: vi.fn(), exit: vi.fn() },
+        logStartupPhase,
+      }),
+    ).resolves.toEqual({ botUserId: botId, botUserName: undefined });
+
+    expect(fetchUser).not.toHaveBeenCalled();
+    expect(logStartupPhase).toHaveBeenCalledWith(
+      "fetch-bot-identity:done",
+      `botUserId=${botId} botUserName=<missing> source=token`,
+    );
+  });
+});
diff --git a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.ts b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.ts
index 6995edfd3fb..5f4d220b6d3 100644
--- a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.ts
+++ b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.startup.ts
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ import {
 } from "../internal/discord.js";
 import type { GatewayPlugin } from "../internal/gateway.js";
 import { VoicePlugin } from "../internal/voice.js";
+import { parseApplicationIdFromToken } from "../probe.js";
 import { createDiscordRequestClient, DISCORD_REST_TIMEOUT_MS } from "../proxy-request-client.js";
 import type { DiscordGuildEntryResolved } from "./allow-list.js";
 import { createDiscordAutoPresenceController } from "./auto-presence.js";
@@ -190,10 +191,20 @@ export async function createDiscordMonitorClient(params: {
 
 export async function fetchDiscordBotIdentity(params: {
   client: Pick<Client, "fetchUser">;
+  token?: string;
   runtime: RuntimeEnv;
   logStartupPhase: (phase: string, details?: string) => void;
 }) {
   params.logStartupPhase("fetch-bot-identity:start");
+  const parsedBotUserId = parseApplicationIdFromToken(params.token ?? "");
+  if (parsedBotUserId) {
+    params.logStartupPhase(
+      "fetch-bot-identity:done",
+      `botUserId=${parsedBotUserId} botUserName=<missing> source=token`,
+    );
+    return { botUserId: parsedBotUserId, botUserName: undefined };
+  }
+
   let botUser: Awaited<ReturnType<typeof params.client.fetchUser>>;
   try {
     botUser = await params.client.fetchUser("@me");
diff --git a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.test.ts b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.test.ts
index 7733746faaa..d8200ec6e5e 100644
--- a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.test.ts
+++ b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.test.ts
@@ -879,7 +879,7 @@ describe("monitorDiscordProvider", () => {
     );
   });
 
-  it("logs repeated native command deploy rate limits as one concise warning", async () => {
+  it("skips native command deploy retries after one rate limit warning", async () => {
     const runtime = baseRuntime();
     const rateLimitError = createRateLimitError(
       new Response(null, {
@@ -898,7 +898,7 @@ describe("monitorDiscordProvider", () => {
       runtime,
     });
 
-    await vi.waitFor(() => expect(clientDeployCommandsMock).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(3));
+    await vi.waitFor(() => expect(clientDeployCommandsMock).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1));
     const warningMessages = vi
       .mocked(runtime.log)
       .mock.calls.map((call) => String(call[0]))
@@ -1012,6 +1012,7 @@ describe("monitorDiscordProvider", () => {
     });
 
     expect(fetchApplicationId).not.toHaveBeenCalled();
+    expect(clientFetchUserMock).not.toHaveBeenCalled();
     expect(getConstructedClientOptions().clientId).toBe("123");
   });
 
diff --git a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.ts b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.ts
index 9f679ecb7e7..28f0ec2c474 100644
--- a/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.ts
+++ b/extensions/discord/src/monitor/provider.ts
@@ -491,6 +491,7 @@ export async function monitorDiscordProvider(opts: MonitorDiscordOpts = {}) {
     >();
     let { botUserId, botUserName } = await fetchDiscordBotIdentity({
       client,
+      token,
       runtime,
       logStartupPhase: (phase, details) =>
         logDiscordStartupPhase({